Did Jim Gamble Sanitize Gerry McCann's CATS File 19309?

Because if he did, it would certainly be in keeping with all the other anomalous behaviour exhibited by Jim Gamble regarding Arguido, Gerry McCann. (See Jim Gamble tag)




This topic of discussion is far from new, though no less important for being that, but it is doing the rounds currently on Twitter. Much of it revolves around this claim by a certain 'KaOssis.' Posted verbatim.

Gerry McCann was convicted for child sex abuses in 2002, althought the evidence has been hacked and emptied from the case file by someone who has access to the National Sex Offenders Register, namely Jim Gamble though the CEOP mainframe connected to every police station crime files in the UK, the reference for this conviction still exists in the judiscial reference files and confiemes that Gerald P McCann was placed on the Child Sex Offenders Register following conviction in court, and is still on that register today! .

Much more than that I don't feel it's necessary to post; principally because there are mountains of stuff to be had by searching the net:

Gerald McCann CATS system registration number 19309

Failing a Google search, you could do worse than paste these URLs into your browser. It is the comments that are of much interest as anything else, and of course, those by KaOssis.

http://mccannexposure.wordpress.com/2010/09/05/peadophile-ring-with-link-to-madeleine-mccann-jailed/

http://jillhavern.forumotion.net/t1354-gerald-mccann-cats-system-registration-number-19309

There are just three issues in this hypothesis that I would like to mention, the first of those being importantly, the date that the, CATS system registration number 19309, was registered. That date having to be pre-March 2007 to have any significance.

Secondly, irrespectively of date; why is the file empty?

And thirdly, Gerry McCann's claim that he had is wallet stolen, or more importantly, his credit card. Because if we are to attach the same significance to the missing credit card that the writer does, I.e. McCann had to show that his credit card had been in a third party's possession, should various nefarious online activities concerning said card, ever come to light.

Because there has to be some significance to the credit card, why else would McCann come out with a tale of such incredulity surrounding the 'stolen wallet' that it makes the claim that Madeleine was abducted, almost plausible?

Gerry McCann has his wallet stolen. A day or two later it is returned to him, I'm not sure how, returned to him sans Pounds Sterling, but complete with credit cards and thirty Euros.

I'm going to have a Bill Maher moment here, and say; Imagine the balls it takes, to stand in front of another human being and tell them that?

Because let's face it, you believe that? Then not only do I have a bridge to sell you, I have a river full of bridges that I want to sell you.

Oh! and by the by, I think this must be the thirty Euros in question. The wallet saga. & more wallet saga.

Further reading: Gerry McCann AND the stolen wallet.

Ore Appeal Tossed

Judges reject Operation Ore appeal

Claims of card fraud in child abuse pics case dismissed

The Court of Appeal has rejected claims that some individuals prosecuted under Operation Ore for incitement to distribute indecent photographs were themselves the victims of credit card fraud.
Operation Ore was a major, long-running investigation by UK police into individuals who appeared on a US-based database – Landslide – that prosecutors claimed was prima facie evidence of their having subscribed to child abuse material.

At issue was the claim by a Mr Anthony O’Shea that his conviction in October 2005 solely on the grounds that his name appeared on that database was unsafe.

In court last month, his lawyers argued that there was significant evidence that many of those who were drawn into the Ore net were only there because their credit card details had been stolen, despite prosecution claims that the only reason that anyone could be on the database was if they had subscribed voluntarily.
n the majority of instances, where police seized computers from individuals in the UK, an amount of child abuse material was found – ranging from a few images to collections of hundreds, sometimes thousands, of images. In a much smaller subset of cases, no images were found: and in some of these, including that of Mr O’Shea, the Crown Prosecution Service took the decision to prosecute on the grounds that the act of subscribing was an incitement to others to distribute imagery.
Clearly, had Mr O’Shea’s name been placed on the database as a result of fraud, then his conviction would have been open to question.
In the event, the Appeal Court found no evidence of any such fraud and therefore concluded that Mr O’Shea’s conviction was safe. Jim Gamble, ACPO lead for child protection, told the Reg:
“Today’s decision by the Court of Appeal draws a line under the efforts of a small number of individuals who, over the past ten years, have perpetuated conspiracy theories about Operation Ore.
“These allegations are unfounded and sought only to undermine an investigation which led to the safeguarding of more than 154 children. UK policing, and formerly the National Crime Squad, has been unable until now to refute these theories publicly due to a desire not to unduly influence pending prosecutions.
“Whilst convicted offenders understandably wish to disassociate themselves from this type of offence in any way possible, the devastating impact of child abuse on its victims must never be forgotten.”
Mr Gamble also drew our attention to two parts of the verdict that he believed to be particularly damning. In paragraph 54 the judgment states: “These suggestions are fanciful in the extreme. The appellant’s theory (for it is no more than such) that he [Mr O’Shea] was the victim of the machinations of a fraudulent webmaster is, in our view, pure speculation.”
The judgement further states in paragraph 43: “We have no hesitation in rejecting this evidence as incapable in belief. It was mere assertion, unsupported by any published or other material or any reasoning.”
We have contacted the appellant’s solicitors for further comment on this case, but have received no response so far. Register

Operation Ore decision a 'serious miscarriage of justice' - lawyer

Judges ignored evidence, lacked expertise

The solicitor who brought the Operation Ore appeal that was finally rejected today has questioned whether the British courts had the expertise to consider deeply technical cases.

Chris Saltrese, the solicitor who brought the case on behalf of Anthony O'Shea, told us today that in his view, the verdict was "not based on the evidence".more Register

Doing a Bit Of Grooming Yourself Mr Gamble?

Now I know Why

Update: Ed Smart seems to be topical at the moment, but what gives my hinky meter a jolt is not just hinky Ed, but the fact that Brian Mitchell was committed rather than standing trial. Something is alarmingly wrong here, mental disorder is normally about as important as a zit to prosecutors when it comes to trying and frying perps.

And of course, let us not forget, Utah is run by the batshit crazies, who themselves seem to have a penchant for young brides. The power and sway of the Mormon Church in Utah must be frightening.

Jim Gamble, giving hinky, a bad name. 

Now I know why Jim Gamble felt comfortable giving his unequivocal support to the McCanns, in spite of them both being Arguidos at the time. And the answer is simple, he's fucking insane.


In truth I have done little more than follow the links supplied by OBU Investigators, and copied the articles I found there. There is a bit of interesting stuff down the page, a Guardian article from yesterday, plus a couple of other bits of interest, not least a piece featuring MP for Leicester East, Keith Vaz, who I have to say, is just as crazy as gamble. When you read these articles, please I beg you, don't loose sight of what it is they are actually talking about.

But first I would like to put this 2008 article before you. I have only highlighted a couple things, but listen to the man, stroll on! I'm not surprised Theresa May said, mind the door on your way out, not surprised at all at all.

The consensus of opinion at the OBU on ITVs "Exclusive," seems to be that it's old stuff re-hashed. But this is a by the by as far as this post is concerned.

Concerns raised over online child safety
Ben Dowell
Tuesday 18 March 2008

Jim Gamble, chief executive of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre, has said that some internet service providers were not doing enough to protect children online.

"Some people who say they are co-operating aren't," Gamble told the Commons culture, media and sport select committee today, but admitted that they were a "minority" of service providers.

"We talk about the industry as this large single entity but it isn't like that," he said. "Most of the industry partners are very good, some are mediocre, some are just not good."

Gamble declined to name individual ISPs, despite being pressed by the committee chairman, Conservative MP John Whittingdale, and another committee member, the Tory MP Nigel Evans, to specify which companies he was referring to.

Insisting that it would not be "fair" to identify companies he felt were not being sufficiently co-operative, Gamble did insist that his patience was being "tested" and suggested that ISP's who were not being as co-operative were harming children.

"I am a father of three children and I am not having them [ISPs] hiding behind my organisation if they are a danger to children," he said. "There comes a time when enough is enough."

Gamble added that the CEOPC, which has 115 full time staff and is affiliated to the national police unit the Serious Organised Crime Agency, was "under resourced".

There was currently a backlog of about 700 uninvestigated cases relating to possible exploitation of children on the interet, he told the committee, although the most serious incidents are prioritised by Soca.

"Do we need greater investment and do we need it now? The answer to that is simply yes," he said.

Gamble called on the internet industry to show more "clarity of purpose" and to co-operate on providing and developing software blocking devices and other ways of protecting children.

"But if various companies bring out four or five packages schools will wonder 'which ones do we choose?'," he said.

Gamble also called for a new crime of adults having "cybersex" with a child avatar, or character, in a virtual online game.

"If you want to have sex with a child and would fantasise about having sex with a child, either in this one or a virtual one, we need to investigate whether they are a danger to children," he said.

Gamble added that his organisation did not act on anonymous reports, suggesting there were many unregistered incidents and each one could relate to several hundred offenders.

Activities that have been brought to the CEOPC's attention included paedophiles coaxing children into providing explicit images of themselves in return for "virtual" rewards on internet gaming sites, Gamble said.

Giving evidence later Nicholas Lansman, secretary general of the Internet Service Providers' Association, said that blocking and monitoring of potentially harmful content was working effectively but added that it was "incumbent upon the industry to address the bad parts".

Camille de Stempel, director of policy at AOL, and Mike Galvin, BT's director of customer experience, defended their companies' attempts to protect children online.

"I don't have the feeling that some companies are not co-operating," said de Stempel. "There is a real willingness to get involved in Home Office initiatives against cyber bullying and so on."

Galvin told the committee that most parents are failing to make use of internet content filtering controls to protect their children online.

He said that BT estimated that only 42% of its broadband customers with children between five and 15-years-old had set up BT Yahoo! content filtering control settings. Gruniad

Case could clear names of hundreds of men accused of child pornography
Afua Hirsch and Louise Shorter
Wednesday 10 November 2010

Hundreds of men who say they were wrongly accused of child pornography offences could have their names cleared after a case to be heard in the court of appeal tomorrow.

One of the 3,700 men arrested as part of Operation Ore in 2002, who says his life was ruined after he was falsely associated with one of the UK's biggest online child-abuse rings, will argue that his credit card details were stolen and used on paedophile sites.

The case stems from Operation Ore, an unprecedented police investigation that led to the arrest of 3,700 men in 2002 after they were linked to an American US-based website, "Landslide.

Police and prosecutors claimed that the men had all clicked on a banner advert on the site, which read: "Click here for child porn," and that police had obtained the names and addresses of more than 7,000 UK users who had followed the link.

But the lawyer acting for the man mentioned said that many of the suspects were innocent.

"Criminal webmasters would use stolen credit card details or take them from their own legal adult pornography sites and re-enter them to sign up for subscriptions to their illegal sites for child pornography," said Chris Saltrese. "There is evidence of bundles of different cards all being entered from one place, one after the other. It was simple fraud."

The appeal court will also hear that the banner was only ever one of a series of rotating ads that led to a legal adult pornography site.

Operation Ore has attracted controversy in the UK for the number of suspects it targeted. Critics claim that, whereas in the US, details were available of 35,000 users of the site but only 100 were prosecuted, the UK authorities prosecuted 1,800.

Thirty-nine of the men are reported to have killed themselves as a result of being prosecuted during the Ore inquiry, and campaigners say many others pleaded guilty to avoid the publicity of a trial.

The case, which has been strongly contested by officers involved in the original investigation, comes amid continuing controversy over efforts to target child exploitation online in the UK.

In July the government announced that CEOP, the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre, which is responsible for prosecuting offenders, would be absorbed into the National Crime Agency, following the coalition's programmme (sic) Policing in the 21st Century, announced in June.

Senior politicians close to CEOP have said that absorbing the organisation into the National Crime Agency will put children at risk.

"CEOP's effectiveness will be lost," a senior source said. "Effective child protection relies on knowledge running throughout an agency. It will be difficult to develop this in a large organisation like the National Crime Agency."

Last month head of CEOP Jim Gamble resigned, four months earlier than his expected departure, in protest at the plans, four months earlier than his expected departure, and has been placed on gardening leave. A number of other senior managers in the organisation are also thought to have resigned.

Although Operation Ore was conducted by the National Criminal Intelligence Service, a forerunner of CEOP, the investigation has attracted criticism for the organisation, as today's appeal could pave the way for other men to have their convictions overturned.

"I have clients who have lost everything: their jobs, their homes, their marriages, their children and their health," Saltrese said. Gruniad

The CEOP Jim Gamble Affair
Saturday, 23 October 2010

I realise I am going to be on very unsteady ground here but I'm usually a straight down the middle guy who doesn't rock the boat so I'm going out on a limb with a slightly controversial piece here.

In the few days since Jim Gamble announced his resignation from his role as Chief Executive of the Child Exploitation and On-Line Protection Centre (CEOP) he has been accorded almost universal adulation by the British Media and has been followed out of the door by three other senior executives at CEOP. To believe the media Mr. Gamble was an irreplaceable hero who single-handedly protected our children from online harm. Here are a selection of stories from the last 48 hours
"Top Abuse Boss Quitting Puts Kids in Danger" says The Sun; "Resignation A Sad Day" says BBC News; "Victim's Group Slams Home Secretary" says the Daily Mail and in this weeks most tabloid friendly collision of stories "Kate and Gerry McCann "Very Upset" at Resignation" says the Daily Mail natch. Now I'm not denying Jim Gamble was/is a man with a mission and a very laudable one at that. His aim is to prevent the abuse of children. This is something which is unarguable and inalienable. I though have met Mr. Gamble on more than one occasion (and more than two for the wags at the back) and there was something very undesirable about his methods and his message. In a cry that echoed back to the radical feminist cry "All Men are Rapists" Mr. Gamble in public speeches seemed to suggest that all men were paedophiles. The role of CEOP was to protect children at all costs from these almost primeval urges. He also seemed to be suggesting that only CEOP could fulfil this role in the UK. The view of many in industry and the legal profession is he was an empire builder who had a particularly narrow and skewed view of society and in particular the relationship between adults and children. I still have a marginal note I made at one of his speeches where I noted down "I am not a paedophile and I resent the implication I am because I happen to be a man." More The IT Lawyer

Modern games feature ‘virtual rape’, MP tells Parliament
Monday, 3rd March 2008

MP for Leicester East Keith Vaz has put forward the questionable claim that players can “rape women” in modern games to Parliament..........

....Keith Vaz said: “People who are watching a film at the cinema cannot participate in what is happening on the screen, or if they do they are removed from the cinema.
"However, someone sitting at a computer playing a video game, or someone with one of those small devices that young people have these days, the name of which I forget… PlayStations or PSPs, something of that kind. "Well, whatever they are called, when people play these things, they can interact. They can shoot people; they can kill people. As the honourable Gentleman said, they can rape women."more

This kind of zealous fuckwit thinking is nothing new to me, I've got a blog full of it. Try this for size. Hazard a guess at what good old boy, Representative Ralph Davenport of South Carolina is talking about, and what he proposes to do to rectify the situation should the chance arise that, if someone is caught kidnapping someone and using these devices on an unwilling victim.

Three guesses, no? vibrators, he's talking about goddamned vibrators, and his solution? a state wide ban on vibrators. Ridiculous you say? certainly, but not that ridiculous, South Carolina, if the bill passed, would join the global war on vibrators along with the other flat earth states of, Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, and Texas.

Beware of zealots and nutters.

Update: Talking of which, I've just come from Joana's blog. In spite of the court ordering that some ten thousand copies of Amaral's book be returned, it would appear that McCann's lawyer, Isabel Duarte, ain't so keen on the idea. I wonder if she's married to that other chancer? they'd make a grand pair.

And then haven't we got the McCanns over there doing whatever it is they're doing, which given the mood in Portugal these days, makes me feel that it all might end in tears.

Beware of zealots and nutters.

Update: I quite like it when folk have a coherent rant, this is the end of the first comment on the Isabel Duarte post at Joanas.

What makes them think they will win a libel trial? They and their friends did not cooperate with the PJ. They allowed archival of their child's case. They do not request re-opening of their child's case. They harmed their child when they decided to leave her in the circumstances they chose to. They still harm her by not allowing her to have an active police investigation into her disappearance. Who's fault is it that there is no law enforcement agency actively looking for their child? Zodiac

Beware of zealots and nutters.

Let's go for one more, and I agree equally with this one as I do the one above.

The McCanns are done for. Game over. They can thrash around and make as much noise as they like now, because they know the end is nigh. They never showed themselves to have anything like good manners when they were being cossetted and everything was going their own way ..... so God knows how appaling their behaviour will become now that they are f*cked. They won't be seeing rainbows anymore .......

And Roy Orbison says it in song far better than I can...(Youtube link)now embedded.

Midas

Beware of zealots and nutters.

I'm Sure They'll Be Mortified

Update: Headlines Today has video and analysis of Gamble/Select Committee interview.


"I resigned to remove myself from the equation so there can be no mis-perception that I have a vested self-interest," he said.

......Gamble's view is opposed to that of internet companies, who last week cautiously welcomed the new structure, arguing that a lot of child pornography online is now related to international organised crime.

Industry sources also welcomed Gamble's departure because of his combative style. He directly rejected such criticisms today when they were put to him by Committee chairman Keith Vaz, suggesting they arose from commercial self-interest.

"I think it depends on which internet company you speak to... I don't think Microsoft will be happy that I'm going," he said.

More The Register and don't forget the comments section.

Friends in high Places

That's The Trouble With Hysteria

Update below.

There a sources aplenty running the with the nuts and bolts of Gamble's resignation, so I thought I might take a sideways look at things.

I recently posted a comment that I found at The Register. The poster, Anonymous Coward, had much to say on the subject of Mister Gamble but closed with this paragraph.

His legacy, such as it is, makes for pretty grim reading. Possibly the most offensive of them (and there really are so very many of them) is his championing of the 'cartoon pr0n' laws which have now become statute in England & Wales. It was CEOP who crowded round the Parliamentary consultation leading up to the law, urging Ministers to not only introduce this wretched law, but to attach fiercely punitive punishments to it - even going so far as to suggest (in all seriousness) that courts should treat 'cartoon pr0n' with the same level of severity as that of real, actual photographic CP. Just how delusional does one have to become to advocate such madness? The sky was the limit for Big Jim - who could stop him?

The Coalition, it seems. Bravo.

Which in turn brought this response from a reader here at GQW.

You commenter seems to have a problem with Gamble's desire to pursue people who have cartoon child porn on their computers.

In that discussion, I'd support Gamble rather than your commenter.

Gamble was no doubt self-serving, but some of the cheers surrounding his departure are coming from dubious quarters.

To which I duly replied. But my reply focussed more on Jim Gamble than the issue I am trying to address today. And rather than import that reply, I shall leave it in situ. (unavailable) But might be better for being read before moving on.

The first thing we have to do is establish just what we are talking about here. Cartoon child porn, or virtual/computer generated child porn is, and let us leave all the emotion out of this, the hysteria if you will, let us leave all that aside. Because not to do so is to put yourself exactly where the Jim Gambles of this world want you, emotional, irrational, and if not entirely hysterical, at least distracted enough to be susceptible to manipulation.

What better example of such emotional, irrational hysteria than the hasty, irresponsible signing of the American Patriot Act by both Houses of Congress. Signed without even being read, rights and freedoms that men had died for, signed away on a wave of hysteria by the very same men who were charged with protecting those rights and freedoms, and done so with such haste that it staggers the imagination.

If we are going to address a situation, let's try to so with a little less emotion.

And that's rich isn't it, especially coming from me. I had a bit of a wake up call yesterday. For reasons that matter not I was reading something that I had written previously, and on a subject that I really feel passionate about. But the emotion displayed in my writing of then and now is marked, and something I am trying to rectify even as I write.

So back to establishing what's what. Virtual child pornography is not child pornography, it is for all intents and purposes, a drawing, nothing more nothing less, and I have to say, is no business of the CEOP.

For a country that runs Saudi Arabia a close second on matters of sexual repression, let us see what they have to say on the subject. This from law professor Susan Brenner.

The Supreme Court held that the First Amendment does not prevent U.S. law from criminalizing real child pornography, even though it qualifies as speech under the First Amendment, because its creation involves the victimization of children, both physically and emotionally.

Real child pornography is essentially a product and a record of a crime, or crimes, against children. The Court also held that the First Amendment does prevent U.S. law from criminalizing virtual child pornography because it is speech and because no real person is “harmed” in its creation; unlike real child pornography, virtual child pornography is fantasy, not recorded reality.source

Thank God for the first amendment, what's left of it anyway.

virtual child pornography is fantasy, not recorded reality

Yet if our aforementioned commenter is to be believed, and I see no reason why he should not, Jim Gamble would like to attach fiercely punitive punishments to it and that courts should treat 'cartoon pr0n' with the same level of severity as that of real, actual photographic CP

Which to me suggests that the proposer might be better suited to running water than to running a national agency with the powers that it has, and still wanting more must be said. And that kiddywinks is a prospect so frightening it can barely be imagined. Jim Gamble in charge of an omnipotent, autonomous organisation and answerable to no one.

As I said in my own comment, where does it stop? It obviously doesn't stop at virtual porn, what next,art? and who is to be the judge of what is, or is not, pornographic, Jim Gamble?





And to put this into true perspective; why only yesterday the good faerie came to see me and left me not sixpence, well he's the good faerie not the tooth faerie, not sixpence but a little gem and perfect compliment to this post.

Oh dear, how sad, never mind - I presume that JG and his minions had never come across (no pun intended) Balthus' "The Guitar Lesson". They'd have wet themselves, poor dears.

I shall leave it to yourselves to Google The Guitar Lesson, and my dearest thanks to Vimes for supplying such a relevant and timely example.

I should also like to leave you this. Fortunately** I need not say an awful lot about it, it rather speaks for itself, but I shall indulge myself with a few highlights, the blue highlight however is for a different reason, which hopefully will become clear before the night is out.

In actual fact I shan't bother with the highlights, they are self evident.

Well Done Theresa May

.........But there is a more sinister reason why one organisation can not be cloak and dagger about child pornography and why it needs to be open and honest and answerable to the public as well as to Governments, MP’s, and even sex offenders themselves.

When you read this statement made by Professor Allyson MacVean in an article to the BBC and re-read it and re-read it again, then think it is rather a sinister statement and it is a statement that could have repercussions on other groups of offenders.

Take a minute read this statement:

Prof Allyson MacVean, director of the John Grieve Centre for Policing and Community Safety at London’s Metropolitan University, said police should be able to search sex offenders’ homes and computers.

“Internet addresses are so easy to make up and it doesn’t give any sense of who the person is or where their location is,” she told the BBC.

She said this was why the police needed access to sex offenders’ computers without needing to apply for a warrant.

Now add that to a secret organisation being run on the lines of MI5 and MI6 and Customs and Revenue and only answerable to Parliament and what do you have, an organisation that not only can clean the streets but an organisation that is open for corruption and political point scoring. Unfortunately even sex offenders have human rights, and even the sex offenders register has people on it that clearly should not be. Take for instance the young lad, in love with an under-age girl, cautioned or convicted of under-age sex, even though he is a minor himself, that alone warrants him to be a sex offender, but does that warrant him to be a serious sex offender and for the rest of his life denied his basic human rights?..........

......The public of course, having been instilled with the fear of sex offenders will back everything without questioning, but there are far more sinister connotations for an organisation that is allowed to basically run free without the scrutiny of the public or other professional bodies.

Control the world by controlling one group of people that every parent fears, paedophiles, and even worse, how long will it be before they could start cross-referencing minor crimes with searches using the justification that any kind of criminal behaviour breeds other criminal acts. In fact, I can just see some tame scientist coming up with some report saying that most offenders of any sort are likely to be viewers of child pornography. More, and with no small thanks, Headlines Today.

**Time is of the essence tonight, I would have liked to say a few words about the, Well Done Theresa May article, but alas, and I also would like to dig out a few relative links to give the piece more meaning, after posting this.



In regard to the blue highlight: Consensual Teen Sex And Lives Forever Ruined and Genarlow Wilson's sad saga, introduction here and how the story played out here. Genarlow Wilson is a black. Tag Genarlow Wilson

Both these young men fell victim to over-zealous prosecutors and squeamish sexual attitudes. To be put on the sex offenders register in the US is to be condemned to living under a bridge, such are the restrictions imposed on offenders. The law not only punishes the offender but their families alike.

In the case of Genarlow Wilson, a seventeen year old who received a consensual blow job from a fifteen year old girl. Justice in the eyes of the state of Georgia, was to sentence Wilson to ten years in the slammer for his moment of pleasure.

Whilst I'm on the subject of over-zealous prosecutors, have a read about Mike Nifong and the Duke Lacrosse players. I don't know which is the more outrageous, his motives or his jail sentence.

I think rather than bring you each individual story, most highlighting the perils of having zealots in charge of policy, it may be easier and quicker if I asked you to click the Sex-Prudery button.

Who* - Who is to be the judge?

When I first started this silly blogging lark, and being as green as grass, I purchased, yes I know, I purchased a pro-account with Photobucket to keep all my pics in. That association was doomed to fail. Having taken time and trouble to upload everything, it was then after a day or two I received notice that certain images were deemed unacceptable.

See if out of these two pics, you can managed to guess which of the two was unacceptable to Photobucket? I am not trying to shock or be contentious by my choice of pics, these are examples. The real pornography, that of violence to women, seemingly not a problem, breasts? oh no! no breasts.



Update: A victim speaks, sans hysteria. The Truth About Paedophilia

CEOP: More Toys Out Of The Pram

The crisis around the future of the government's Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (Ceop) deepened today as it emerged that three more senior managers are to quit following the resignation yesterday of its chief executive.

A spokesman for the agency, which leads the government's efforts to combat internet child abuse, confirmed that the three senior figures were preparing to hand in their resignations as a result of an upheaval in the way Ceop will function. He declined to name the officials but said their departure would have a significant impact on the 120-strong unit.

The news comes after Jim Gamble, the chief executive, resigned following a row with Theresa May, the home secretary, about plans to merge Ceop with the Serious and Organised Crime Agency and the UK Border Agency in a new National Crime Agency from 2013. He warned the move would undermine attempts to keep children safe from paedophiles and other abusers on the internet.

Gamble remained silent today but his stand was backed by allies, including the shadow home secretary, Alan Johnson, who warned the decision "will harm child safety networks".

"The Home Office's lack of consultation has led to the resignation of Mr Gamble who is highly respected within and outside of the organisation he served so well," said Johnson. "His expertise will be badly missed. To protect our children we need this expertise and Ceop have provided that beyond doubt. I could see as home secretary the potential for them to do so much more and it is very difficult to come to any other conclusion than the government should make them independent."

Since 2006 Ceop claims to have disrupted or dismantled 262 sex-offender networks, and it says inquiries by its online investigators have led to more than 1,000 arrests. Earlier this year May described Ceop, which has an annual budget of £11m, as "vital" and "a centre of excellence in protecting children online that the UK can be proud of". Labour had proposed to make Ceop a non-departmental public body, but May said last night the coalition government did not want to create another "quango".

Child protection experts are worried that combining Ceop with what the Home Office has described as "a powerful new body of operational crimefighters" means its focus on victims will be lost. It claims to have initiated the training of 6 million children in online safety through a programme disseminated through teachers, youth workers and schools. Ceop officials also believe they will lose millions of pounds a year in non-governmental funding from organisations such as Visa and Microsoft if it becomes part of the NCA.

"We cannot begin to describe how disgusted we are with our own government for betraying him and for betraying all of our children," said Shy Keenan, who works at Phoenix Chief Advocates, representing victims of paedophilia alongside Sara Payne, mother of the murdered schoolgirl Sarah Payne. "This cannot be allowed to happen, we must stand up and fight, we must do what is right for the protection of our children against the crimes of paedophiles. You cannot approach child protection with a 'crime only' police unit. We need a pro-active child protection centre, not just a reactive police approach."

The Association of Chief Police Officers, of which Gamble is the lead on child protection, also protested against May's decision. "Acpo continues in firm support of Ceop operating as a stand-alone agency," said Warwickshire's chief constable, Keith Bristow. "If the government chooses not to support this option, then Acpo would seek to be consulted on whatever new governance arrangements are put in place."

In a submission to the Home Office consultation on the NCA earlier this year, Acpo warned of a "real risk that the advances that Ceop has made, particularly with regard to wider child protection partnerships, will be compromised".

Peter Saunders, from the National Association for People Abused in Childhood charity, said Ceop could have performed better. "I can only say it's a loss to child protection that Jim Gamble has resigned," he said. "But there has been an enormous amount of money spent on Ceop that would have been better spent elsewhere."

Gamble developed a reputation for having a confrontational style and clashed repeatedly with Facebook over his desire for it to include online safety buttons on its web pages. guardian

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A comment from the web.

The only people I hear sobbing over Reverend Gamble's departure are the self-same advocacy groups who have made such a commercial killing 'partnering' with his congregation at CEOP over the past few years. As usual, they employ highly emotive and wilfully misleading terminology to describe the Reverend as nothing less than a saint. But I guess it's kind hard to wave goodbye to the goose that laid quite so many golden eggs. Times were so good back in the good old days at the height of the Paedogeddon, after all... it was the gift that just kept giving.

The Operation Ore class action comes to court next month (finally). Big Jim is likely to feature prominently as it was he who led the entire fiasco from the start. That he should fall on his sword just about now is...well, let's just say it's 'interesting'. He does appear to have rather a lot of rather awkward questions to answer.

For a fledgling CEOP, Gamble as CEO (it really is a commercial outfit, albeit one which also enjoys huge public handouts) was a star performer - his well-rehearsed patter was so very effective at dazzling the media with endlessly sensational soundbites - not one of which he was ever required to explain or to prove. The Reverend could say what he wanted, claim what he wanted, and threaten whomever he wished - all with impunity. The media (El Reg excepted, of course) rarely if ever took him to task for his increasingly hysterical utterances. With him, it was all about perception - and keeping the moral crisis high on the public agenda was an effective business plan during the cosy NuLabour years of huge (£multi-million) public handouts. How things change.

No doubt at some future date he'll receive his gong for 'services to child protection' or some such. Quite where that leaves the hundreds who's lives were systematically ruined by CEOP's repeated witchunting over the years is anyone's guess, but I doubt they'll be applauding from the sidelines. The fact that Theresa May has not seen fit to reject his offer of resignation speaks volumes - I'll allow you to draw your own conclusions. When the only people arguing for his retention are those bottom feeders who - in these difficult financial times - happen to have a vested interest in his being at the head of CEOP, I think the picture's fairly clear for all.

His legacy, such as it is, makes for pretty grim reading. Possibly the most offensive of them (and there really are so very many of them) is his championing of the 'cartoon pr0n' laws which have now become statute in England & Wales. It was CEOP who crowded round the Parliamentary consultation leading up to the law, urging Ministers to not only introduce this wretched law, but to attach fiercely punitive punishments to it - even going so far as to suggest (in all seriousness) that courts should treat 'cartoon pr0n' with the same level of severity as that of real, actual photographic CP. Just how delusional does one have to become to advocate such madness? The sky was the limit for Big Jim - who could stop him?
The Coalition, it seems. Bravo.

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I found the Guardian story at the same place that I found the comment. More here.

Kate and Gerry McCann 'very upset' at Loosing Their Protector

Well they would be wouldn't they?



But then I think anybody would be upset loosing a man who, from his position as the chief executive of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre, had this to say about them:

"WE ABSOLUTELY SUPPORT THE McCANN FAMILY," he says, sitting in his glass-walled office in Pimlico, Central London.

THEY ARE TO BE APPLAUDED FOR THEIR TIRELESS WORK TO KEEP THE CAMPAIGN TO FIND THEIR DAUGHTER IN THE PUBLIC CONCIOUSNESS. IT IS A CASE FOR EVERY PARENT OF "THERE BUT FOR THE GRACE OF GOD GO I."

And the date for this unequivocal message of support? ONE MONTH, THIRTY DAYS AFTER THE McCANNS WERE DECLARED PERSONS OF INTEREST (Arguidos) IN THE DEATH AND DISAPPEARANCE OF THEIR DAUGHTER MADELEINE McCANN.

An involvement I might add, for which they have never been exonerated. But this is not about the McCanns, this is about Jim Gamble. A man who abused his position to such an extent that his message of support if not downright criminal, then borders it as to make no difference.

Talk about resigning! that message alone should have seen him sacked, on the spot, there and then. And this is the crux of this thing, no copper, let alone one of his standing, should be within a country mile of a suspect, let alone supporting the bugger. Stroll on!

So please, for shame, don't give me the nine of hearts about what a wonderful bloke Jim Gamble is, he's as bent as the proverbial.

Joana has articles from the Press Association and the Mail.






And the same applies to this lot. Not within a million miles should they be of the McCanns, let alone a link from Leicester Police's web page to the bloody McCanns own page of lies, nonsense and fraud.

Stroll on! the world's gone fucking mad!

A Good Day For Kids A Better Day For Integrity: Gamble Gone

Going anyway; who's next on the twat list?




Whatever the reason for him going I'll guarantee it's not this one offered by CEOPs.

The agency said it did not feel it was in the best interests of children and young people for Ceop to be assimilated into the National Crime Agency.

A tad upset perhaps at the thought of loosing his little fiefdom and to say nothing of loosing his platform from which pervert the course of justice on behalf of his best mucker, Gerry McCann.

Maybe he can use his free time to go and search for Madeleine, who will now be six years old.


I've just borrowed this tweet from Joana.




Here's the latest as of hr 22:30 _ 04/10/11

BBC
Online child protection chief Jim Gamble resigns

The chief executive of the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (Ceop) has resigned in a row over its future, the BBC has learned.

The Home Office confirmed the home secretary had accepted Jim Gamble's resignation letter.

Mr Gamble did not believe the decision to assimilate Ceop into the National Crime Agency was in the best interests of children and young people.

The merger proposal was outlined by Theresa May in July.

In a statement Ceop said: "The Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre does not feel that it is in the best interests of children and young people for Ceop to be assimilated into the National Crime Agency, as was announced a short while ago.

"This direction of travel does not seem to have changed and Ceop's CEO, Jim Gamble, has therefore today offered his resignation to the home secretary with a four month notice period."

Mrs May said: "As chief executive Jim Gamble has done a great job at Ceop and made a huge contribution to protecting children. I wish him all the best for the future and arrangements for his successor will be outlined in due course

"The government recognises the importance of child protection and wants to build upon the work of Ceop, but does not necessarily feel this is best done by creating a new quango."

It is understood that Ceop has made representations to the government since the announcement that its work was to become part of the proposed National Crime Agency.

'Badly missed'

Ceop is currently affiliated to the Serious Organised Crime Agency (Soca).

It is believed that Mr Gamble was keen on gaining more independence for the agency rather than allowing it to become part of a greater National Crime Agency.

It felt it would lose its identity and priorities given to its work would be devalued.

Claude Knights, direrctor of anti-bullying charity Kidscape said Ceop had proven its worth and the news was concerning.

"It is so sudden as well and to have a person with as much experience as Jim Gamble being taken away from the horizon, really at such speed is a worry, because he is a leader in this field," she said.

Shadow home secretary Alan Johnson said Mr Gamble was a passionate advocate for effective measures to protect children from threatening people on the internet.

"Under his leadership the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (Ceop) was gaining an international reputation for its tremendous work. Labour would have given Ceop the operational freedom it needed to become even more effective, " he said.

"The government's plans will harm child safety networks. Their lack of consultation has led to the resignation of Mr Gamble who is highly respected within and outside of the organisation he served so well. His expertise will be badly missed."

Ceop was set up in 2006 with the aim of finding and convicting online paedophiles.

Mr Gamble was head of Northern Ireland's anti-terrorist unit before joining the agency and was one of five senior police figures shortlisted to replace Sir Hugh Orde after he stepped down as chief constable of the Police Service of Northern Ireland.

As Ceop chief executive Mr Gamble led calls for Facebook to set up a "panic button" to give reassurance for young users. The application has been downloaded tens of thousands of times since its launch in July. BBC

Sky has a report, link here. This snip from Martin, I'm such a little tart of the yard, Brunt, no less.

"He (Jim Gamble) believes the issue of child protection is so important it merits its own agency and should not be subsumed by a national agency."

Jim Gamble is a cunt.



The McCann Archive tag CEOP/Gamble

Although Ceop does not work directly with the Portuguese police - who shelved their investigation in July last year - any relevant information received will be passed on to Leicestershire Police, who will share it with detectives in Portugal.

Sorry, I've no source for the above, I can only assume it's CEOPs.

This piece from the Independent was part of a saved draft that included links for my previous Jim Gamble posts, as was the video above. I have never aired it, so I might as well up the lot whilst I'm about it.

British police join inquiry into Madeleine's disappearance
9th May 2007

The growing influence of British police in the hunt for three-year-old Madeleine McCann was underlined last night when it emerged that child abduction and paedophile behaviour specialist officers had flown to Portugal to help.

Two officers from the Child Exploitation and Online Protection Centre (Ceop) arrived yesterday in what Ceop described as an "unprecedented" move, that comes amid mounting concern over the capacity of the Portuguese police to undertake a missing child investigation of this kind.

Their arrival was organised through the Foreign Office, the point of contact between Madeleine's parents, Gerry and Kate, three family liaison officers and Portuguese detectives. The Ceop has expertise in data analysis concerning paedophile activity.

There are major concerns about the ability of the local police to engage with the Portuguese public. The British Crimestoppers organisation has established a telephone number for information ­ something the Portuguese have not done.

Leicestershire Police, the McCanns' local force, said they have passed on information received from members of the public and other forces, although the force refused to confirm they had compiled a list of Britons on the Sex Offenders Register who had informed them they were travelling to Portugal.

Britain's contribution came on a day of confusion and mounting concern over the competence of the Portuguese investigation, a day which ended with Ch Insp Olegarion Sousa ­ who has been brought in from Lisbon to take over ­ dashing the hopes of Madeleine's parents that their daughter might have been found.

In the first possible sighting of Madeleine, road blocks were set up yesterday in the town of Nelas, six hours north of the Algarve resort of Praia Da Luz from where she went missing six days ago. A man and child were spotted in a car. It was a false alarm, said Ch Insp Sousa. "It was not Madeleine. It was a child who looks like Madeleine, but she is a child who lives in the area."

Clearly flustered by the clamour for information, Ch Insp Sousa was more forthcoming at a later press conference. He revealed that 500 apartments had been searched in and around the resort, more than 100 people formally interviewed, 350 leads followed and fields and streams searched over an area of 15 sq km. Curiously, Ch Insp Sousa also said the only clues to Madeleine's disappearance had been found at the apartment where she was last seen.

The British ambassador to Portugal, John Buck, said he had been in contact with the office of the Portuguese Prime Minister, Jose Socrates, to discuss the investigation. "I wanted to assure myself the necessary links between British and Portuguese experts here on the ground are working well ­ and they are," he said.

Mr and Mrs McCann, who had been dining in a tapas bar when Madeleine went missing from their nearby ground-floor apartment, appeared only briefly yesterday to pray at a local church.

Ch Insp Sousa refused to discuss their daughter's case because of a clause in the country's Process Penal Code of Law, that forbids the disclosure of information relating to a case while it is under investigation, unless it is in the public interest. Portugal's most senior prosecutor in Lisbon has decreed that the possible presence of an abductor does not create a public interest.

But a former British police child protection officer, Mark Williams-Thomas, said the absence of police/public contact prevented people helping the investigation and left officers relying "only on police officers scanning their own databases". Mr Williams-Thomas also criticised the haphazard nature of the search. "You could continue searching forever unless you have a targeted area," he said.

Detectives from Portugal's sex abuse and homicide unit in Lisbon have been dispatched to the resort.

In Manchester, the footballer Cristiano Ronaldo, a superstar in Portugal, made his own televised appeal for help in tracing the missing three-year-old. The Manchester United player said: "I appeal to anyone with information to come forward."

The Chelsea players Paolo Ferreira and John Terry also made appeals last night.

Questions about the case

Is a paedophile ring involved?

A Portuguese newspaper has reported that the British police have supplied details about paedophiles who may be in the area. Leicestershire Police confirmed they have passed on information.

Do the police have a prime suspect?

The police were reported as saying on Saturday that they "had a prime suspect in mind" and an artist's sketch. They have since said that the reports were mistranslated. What they had was a description of a man seen by a key witness, and an artist's sketch, but only of the back of his head.

Why have police not issued an artist's sketch?

Under Portugal's law of "judicial secrecy", it is a criminal offence to give away details of police investigations. This is unlike British law, where restrictions only come into force after someone is charged.

Are the Algarve police experienced enough to handle the case?

Until last week, there had not been a kidnapping on the Algarve for 17 years. Forensic evidence had to be sent to Lisbon, because of a lack of resources locally. Specialist detectives from the sex abuse and homicide unit in Lisbon have been sent to assist.

Did the police bungle the start of the inquiry?

Kate McCann was in no doubt from the start that her daughter had been taken, because a window had been forced. The police appeared to have thought that she had wandered off. News of her disappearance came when a relative rang GMTV asking for help. But the police say they were on the scene in 10 minutes.

Is the family under suspicion?

Internet bloggers have passed judgement on Madeleine's parents for leaving their children asleep while they had dinner 50 yards away. Now, unconfirmed reports say that police inquiries are including extended family. Independent

Previous Jim Gamble posts. I have no doubt there are more, but for tonight, that's it.


Wednesday, 6 January 2010
The Gerry McCann Punch & Judy Show with Special Guest Jim Gamble

Tuesday, 17 November 2009
CEOP Are You Going To Share The New Evidence With Us?

Tuesday, 26 January 2010
Hype The Threat - Implement The Legislation

Sunday, 29 November 2009
CEOP: New Evidence? plus Intercalary Report

Friday, 8 January 2010
Thoughts For Today - The CEOP

Sunday, 10 January 2010
Out of the Mouths of Babes Sucklings and Jacqui Smith

Thursday, 14 January 2010
Hey You Jimmy, Yes You Jimmy at the CEOP

Tuesday, 26 January 2010
CEOP Let Us Have A Little Reminder About The Merits Of Your Guest Speaker Gerry McCann

Thursday, 21 January 2010
CEOP Contrary To Your Email Madeleine McCann Is Not Presumed Abducted She Is Presumed Dead

Sunday, 29 November 2009
The Available Evidence Supporting an Abduction and the CEOP

Sunday, 29 November 2009
Jim Gamble, What's Your Game Matey?

Wednesday, 16 December 2009
Uncleared Suspect in Simulating a Crime and Hiding a Cadaver to be Guest Speaker at CEOP Conference on Child Abduction

Monday, 21 December 2009
CEOP Set To Become Independent

Sunday, 27 December 2009
Jim Gamble CEOP A Question If I May

Wednesday, 6 January 2010
Anything you say will be ignored

Wednesday, 6 January 2010
Gerry McCann To Be Guest Speaker Of CEOP

Thursday, 7 January 2010
How Credible An Organisation Is The CEOP?

Doing a Bit Of Grooming Yourself Mr Gamble?

The Rules Of The Road

A simple ditty for novices to keep in their heads regarding lights at sea.


If both lights you see ahead, Starboard your helm and show your red.
Green to green or red to red, all serene – go ahead.
But if to starboard red should appear,’tis your duty to keep clear.


Two Arguidos and daughter dead should sound alarm bells in your head.
No proof, forensics, one can’t but wonder, your support, no small blunder.
CEOP and Leicester Plod o’er law o’land, doing their best to ride roughshod.
Thought their cover up such a safe bet, never seemed to consider th’internet.
Standing ovation at NPIA, you couldn’t make it up I hear folk say.
Daughter dead and then they hid her, you’d think the cops their tells consider.
Cops and Quangos lavished support throughout, now they’re in there’s no way out.
For the moment might be said, they’ve got away with it, in spite daughter dead.
But that’s no message for me to send, I’ll guarantee it, we’ll get you in the end.
And when it all comes tumbling down with gnashing teeth and mournful frown.
Stood before justice though not alone, of company there’ll be plenty, countless others to atone.

File Under Merde d'Taureau

In collusion, by way of a change, with a beast of a different colour, Murdoch's Sun treats us to another dollop of self promotion by Jim Gamble.

Thanks to Sara we've saved 624 kids from paedos
By JIM GAMBLE, Boss of CEOP

Thanks to Sara we've saved 624 kids from paedos

FOUR years ago, a national agency was set up to rescue children from abuse and arrest sex offenders.

The Child Exploitation And Online Protection Centre includes police, child safety experts plus charity, Government and industry people. Today, on the tenth anniversary of eight-year-old Sarah Payne's abduction by Roy Whiting CEOP announce their latest results - with more perverts than ever being caught.

Here, CEOP chief exec Jim Gamble talks about his work.............

And on it drones, but tucked in with the bullshit is this one line.

We are now also to take responsibility for missing children.

Since when and by who's authority, or have you just thrown it in with the rest of the fertiliser in response to being accused of acting outside your remit?

Whatever the reason, the statement soon looses it's authority when it is followed immediately, and to the tune of the McCann abduction drum.

So if a child like Madeleine McCann went missing now, I can't say whether we could find her but I have no doubt we could act faster to alert the authorities here and improve the response of authorities abroad.

Rather than sully the page with this merde, you can read the rest of it here.






But given such impressive numbers by Gamble, this article may be of some little interest.

Police force 'tricks' to 'fiddle' crime figures

Police forces are using a series of tricks to manipulate crime figures to give a false picture of their performance, a former senior detective has revealed.

By David Barrett, Home Affairs Correspondent
Published: 8:45PM GMT 05 Dec 2009

The techniques – dubbed "gaming" – are used to create the illusion that fewer crimes are being committed and that a bigger proportion are being solved.

Rodger Patrick, a retired Detective Chief Inspector, claimed that the methods are tacitly approved of by senior officers, police watchdogs and the Home Office.

The claims will reignite the debate about the validity of crime statistics after recent figures suggested that crime fell four per cent in the second quarter of this year, and following the admission by a police watchdog that some forces are failing to record violent crime properly.

The techniques identified by Dr Patrick include:

:: "Cuffing" – in which officers make crimes disappear from official figures by either recording them as a "false report" or downgrading their seriousness. For example, a robbery in which a mobile phone is stolen with violence or threats of violence is recorded as "theft from the person", which is not classed as a violent crime.

:: "Stitching" – from "stitching up", whereby offenders are charged with a crime when there is insufficient evidence. Police know that prosecutors will never proceed with the case but the crime appears in police records to have been "solved".

:: "Skewing" – when police activity is directed at easier-to-solve crimes to boost detection rates, at the expense of more serious offences such as sex crimes or child abuse.

:: "Nodding" – where clear-up rates are boosted by persuading convicted offenders to admit to crimes they have not committed, in exchange for inducements such as a lower sentence.

Dr Patrick, who researched the subject for a PhD, said: "The academics call this 'gaming' but police officers would call it fiddling the figures, massaging the books or, the current favourite term, 'good housekeeping'. It is a bit like the police activities that we all thought stopped in the 1970s."

Serving police officers confirmed that the tricks were being used and gave examples of how they had been implemented.

In one case, an offender shot at another man at close range but missed and broke a window behind his target. The offence was recorded as criminal damage rather than attempted murder.

In another example, a man robbed in a city's red-light district – an area he had been innocently passing through – was told by officers they would be unable to record the crime without informing his wife he had been the area, leading to the complaint being withdrawn.

One detective, who declined to be named, said: "Name any crime and I'll tell you how it can be fiddled."

Simon Reed, vice-chairman of the Police Federation, which represents front line officers, said: "This research demonstrates that senior officers are directing and controlling widespread manipulation of crime figures.

"The public are misled, politicians can claim crime is falling and chief officers are rewarded with performance-related bonuses."

Last month Denis O'Connor, the Chief Inspector of Constabulary, published an official report into the way police record violent crime and admitted the figures may be skewed by "perverse incentives" around government performance targets.

Dr Patrick's research highlighted figures from his own former force, West Midlands, which reveal what happened when senior officers cracked down on one of the gaming techniques.

Rank and file officers were told in 2002 that informal police warnings could no longer be counted as a detection for common assaults.

Within 12 months the number of recorded common assaults dropped from 22,000 to 3,000 while thousands more crimes switched to the category "other woundings".

"Such a rapid adjustment indicates the organisational nature of the phenomenon and suggests some form of co-ordination and direction by management," the research said.

"The scale of the 'gaming' behaviours measured in this thesis ... suggested senior officers were either directly orchestrating the behaviour or turning a blind eye to it."

Dr Patrick believes other gaming techniques are still being used in forces across the country.

The report also warned that the use of "stitching" was "significant", while "cuffing" had continued after the introduction of Home Office rules which were supposed to guarantee and standardise the way crimes are recorded.

"Cuffing" can involve a situation where a victim of crime is accused of making a false crime report, and is therefore treated like a suspect rather than an injured party, Dr Patrick said.

"You cannot have members of the public who have been victims of crime coming to the police for help and being treated like suspects. That is not right and it will erode confidence in the police," he said.

Dr Patrick found that watchdogs such as Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary (HMIC) and the Police Standards Unit had a "general tendency to underplay the scale and nature" of gaming.

He was scathing of HMIC's failure to tackle the problem, noting there were no examples of chief police officers being publicly criticised by inspectors for this type of crime figure manipulation.

HMIC tended privately to refer examples of widespread gaming to the Home Secretary or the police authority rather than "hold the chief constable to account" because of the risk of political embarrassment, he said.

Dr Patrick concluded that HMIC inspectors should be made accountable to Parliament rather than the Home Office, and suggested they should be drawn from other professions rather than solely from senior police ranks. Telegraph

From the 1m 50s mark.



Previous Jim Gamble/CEOP posts.